Comments on: Interesting tidbits in Mark http://www.ntdiscourse.org/2009/01/interesting-tidbits-in-mark/ Removing the mystery from discourse grammar Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Steve Runge http://www.ntdiscourse.org/2009/01/interesting-tidbits-in-mark/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Steve Runge Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:12:10 +0000 http://www.ntdiscourse.org/?p=372#comment-171 Sean, You are very correct in raising the possibility of more parallels. My purpose is not to solve the synoptic problem, nor to propose some new proposal to the priority issue. I want to find legitimate minimal pairs/triads of the same propositional content, and to consider the impact of the different wording or use of discourse devices. I will work more closely with Aland's synopsis as I begin the exegesis, UBS simply provides a basic oragnization to get started. I am not sure what criteria they used for the pericope divisions. Many of them seem more determined by the presence of a parallel saying than by the continuity/discontinuity of the discourse. Sean, You are very correct in raising the possibility of more parallels. My purpose is not to solve the synoptic problem, nor to propose some new proposal to the priority issue. I want to find legitimate minimal pairs/triads of the same propositional content, and to consider the impact of the different wording or use of discourse devices. I will work more closely with Aland’s synopsis as I begin the exegesis, UBS simply provides a basic oragnization to get started. I am not sure what criteria they used for the pericope divisions. Many of them seem more determined by the presence of a parallel saying than by the continuity/discontinuity of the discourse.

]]> By: Steve Runge http://www.ntdiscourse.org/2009/01/interesting-tidbits-in-mark/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Steve Runge Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:24:33 +0000 http://www.ntdiscourse.org/?p=372#comment-170 Thanks for the correction, Bob. I will get it taken care of. It was a hasty post. Thanks for the correction, Bob. I will get it taken care of. It was a hasty post.

]]> By: Sean http://www.ntdiscourse.org/2009/01/interesting-tidbits-in-mark/comment-page-1/#comment-167 Sean Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:46:12 +0000 http://www.ntdiscourse.org/?p=372#comment-167 Definitely an interesting project. The whole question of when other Gospels have parallel pericopes is far from black and white. For example, in my <a href="http://www.semanticbible.com/cgi/2004/11/pericope-index.html" rel="nofollow">Composite Gospel Index</a>, the pericope for <a href="http://www.semanticbible.com/cgi/2004/11/Pericope.059.xml" rel="nofollow">Mk 3:7-12 (Large Crowds follow Jesus)</a> does have a parallel in Mt 12:15-21. But deciding whether that's real or not depends on having a clearer set of criteria than i have (i'm not sure what the UBS criteria are). While it's useful to think about what HP pericopes Mark has and Matt doesn't, it's also true that overall, there's very little in Mark that's unique to Matthew. By my count (which is of course difference from the UBS scheme), there are 123 pericopes in Mark, only 16 of which don't have a correspondence in Matthew. If there are so few overall, is it significant that 3 of them use the HP parallel (if i've followed your point correctly)? I'm not sure, but it's an interesting question. Definitely an interesting project. The whole question of when other
Gospels have parallel pericopes is far from black and white. For
example, in my Composite
Gospel Index, the pericope for Mk
3:7-12 (Large Crowds follow Jesus) does have a parallel in Mt
12:15-21. But deciding whether that’s real or not depends on having a
clearer set of criteria than i have (i’m not sure what the UBS
criteria are).

While it’s useful to think about what HP pericopes Mark has and Matt
doesn’t, it’s also true that overall, there’s very little in Mark
that’s unique to Matthew. By my count (which is of course difference
from the UBS scheme), there are 123 pericopes in Mark, only 16 of
which don’t have a correspondence in Matthew. If there are so few
overall, is it significant that 3 of them use the HP parallel (if i’ve
followed your point correctly)? I’m not sure, but it’s an interesting
question.

]]> By: Bob MacDonald http://www.ntdiscourse.org/2009/01/interesting-tidbits-in-mark/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Bob MacDonald Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:41:29 +0000 http://www.ntdiscourse.org/?p=372#comment-166 I look forward to your tense reflections. The deaf mute is who you are referencing above - not blind. I have always considered the young man in the garden as the author himself. Perhaps he is also a reflection of the blind man who sees men walking as trees - John Mark had a long learning process. I look forward to your tense reflections. The deaf mute is who you are referencing above – not blind. I have always considered the young man in the garden as the author himself. Perhaps he is also a reflection of the blind man who sees men walking as trees – John Mark had a long learning process.

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